Don't Start a Podcast (Unless You Do This)

Fuck anybody and their opinions. The first thing is, don't get distracted by trying to find the best equipment. If you have a business already, then having a podcast can make you money pretty quickly. OK, so you want to start a podcast. We've had a podcast for a couple of years. You want to know how you get started. Should you podcast? How do you begin? What equipment should you get? And we kind of know a little bit about it, right? And we know enough to be dangerous. Yeah. And on this episode, we're going to talk about our podcast journey, offer our own thoughts and opinions. Doesn't mean they're right, doesn't mean you should do it. But I think we have some good ideas about how you should fucking do this. Yeah. We'll just talk and we'll see what you think. If you take our advice, that's on you. This is not medical advice, nor is it legal advice. No, please consult the physician before listening to this podcast. The last time we kind of really did a solo episode was the Amazon story, I think. We talk about that whole debacle and then how we're like, oh, we're gonna be so positive and whatever. It's kind of fun for us to be on an episode, be on camera, and kind of think out loud, think through the process of like what it's been like up until right this moment from then.

And maybe some of the things we've learned and what we've been doing, what we're trying to build now where we're at, and also kind of the vision we have of some of the cool shit we want to do with the podcast. So imagine this as a sort of vlog in a way is like a journal entry in the TFG multiverse saga. And so, the last episode was all about Amazon and our journey with that and how that's evolved into now becoming the Two Fun Guys Multiverse podcast. And so we want to be able to impart that. Knowledge for you if you want to start a podcast. And if you're asking yourself, I want to start a podcast, should I start one? We'll go through our journey, what it was like, and hopefully you find value in that. So, let me ask you then, Brent, if somebody wants to start a podcast, what are the one or two questions they should ask themselves first before they get into it? One is why, right? And sometimes like if I ask myself that, it's like a little complicated, but I think it's one of the, like, do you? Continually think about it. You think you should start a podcast and then maybe that thought goes away or like you get busy, but it keeps coming back to you. Like it's this itch, it's like a nagging feeling. Yeah, when you ask people around you, friends, family, coworkers, whatever, partner, blah, blah, blah, you're going to get a lot of negativity, like, don't do it, don't do this, don't like go for it, blah, blah. But you still keep feeling the need even if people are giving you that advice of don't do it.

Then also, if you have people telling you not to do cool stuff like that, you probably need some new friends and family in your life. Yeah. What I'll say is podcasting is the best. Just like, I don't think there's ever gonna be too many books written. There's like, oh, there's too many books, no one should start a podcast. So first, fuck anybody and their opinions about you not doing a podcast. You shouldn't do a podcast, you shouldn't do a podcast on that. You, there's too many out there, it's cringe, fuck all that, right? Be cringe, do it, because at the end of the day, it's really for you, and it's some of the best personal growth you can do, and it's easier. Easier than ever to do it now. Like, you, as long as you have a, like you could do it with your phone and you just get a pretty good mic, Facebook Marketplace is one of the best places to go for podcast equipment. So let's talk about that actually. If, if some, OK, so let's say somebody decides, I want to start a podcast, I'm ready to do it. I've made the decision. But I have no idea where to start. Do I buy expensive equipment? Do I do it the cheap route? Like, what are the things people should be aware of when they get into it, and how do you decide what kind of gear to get?

I would say, don't get distracted by trying to find the best equipment, trying to find Like lighting and all this, like, what is the thing that'll allow you, like if you had to do a podcast episode, let's say next weekend, right, or 7 days from now, you need to do a podcast solo or you just invite a friend, whatever it is, what do you need to pull that off right now? If you need a camera, you could either use your laptop, you could use your phone. If you already have a camera, you could use that. The quality doesn't really necessarily matter that much. First of all, your 1st 50 episodes or more, no one's going to be watching that shit. So don't fucking worry about it, right? Getting a pretty good mic is good, right? Yeah, I'll, I'll say this, the audio quality matters way more than the video quality. And they've done studies where people will watch a grainy video for way longer than they will listen to choppy audio. So get a good mic. If you're going to spend money on something, get quality microphones and not, you don't have to go get like the nicest Shore MV7s or whatever, but get something that's, you know, you can get a road mic for like 100 bucks.

That's gonna do great. Yeah, they have the little pod mics, Ro as those. But again, Facebook Marketplace, there's people selling really nice mics that just got into podcasting and stopped. I mean, there's tons of those people. So just find a mic for what's your budget. If you only got 25 bucks, you can find a mic. I mean, what you can do actually, there's a cool place here in Austin, Rock and Roll Rentals, I think. Rock and Roll rentals. When we've done live podcasts at events and stuff, we've rented mics and gear. For a couple of days for like 10 bucks each thing, right? So that's a good way to do it is just rent stuff and then that way you get to play around. It's kind of like you get to go to the library and rent different books. You can just start messing around with different equipment. I mean, we even rent just stuff to figure out, OK, we're going to go to Shambala. We want to do podcasting at the festival. There's so many mics, and maybe you could use Claude and Chad GBT and you go down YouTube rabbit holes, you could ask a bunch of people, but The best thing to do is test it because the way you podcast and the way you want to do stuff, you're going to learn so much by just messing with stuff. OK, so let's say you got your microphone. How do you record? Now I have a microphone. What do I do with it?

Depending on the microphone, you can sometimes just plug it directly into your phone and just record the audio directly into your phone. You could rent road Bluetooth mics, that'll plug directly into your phone. Usually comes with an adapter, so the audio is just in there. You just want to make Sure that your camera's even plugged into a power source or it's got a battery so that shit doesn't all of a sudden power off, right? Or you could use your laptop. I think Rode has a bunch of applications or I think you can even use iPhoto and you can film from that. You can record directly onto there. Now, if you want, you could get, again, a little mixer, you could rent one, you just need to buy a USB like a micro USB or Again, you can record it in your laptop, you can record it directly into your phone. Um, and by the way, there's like kits that you can buy on Amazon. I was just talking to two friends who are starting a podcast and They found some great kits online that Rode sells where it comes with the mixer. It's like a Roadcaster duo, I think, 2 microphones. It's got all the cords and connections that you need. I think you just have to buy your SD card separately, but you can just go on Amazon search beginner podcast setup and all your audio stuff is right there and you've pretty much got it done. Then you just need to figure out how to use the mixer, and it's not that complicated. It looks You know, intimidating, but once you figure it out, it's just controlling audio levels and it's pretty easy. Yeah, it's literally got a record button. It turns a different color. It's like I think it turns red when it's recording, green when it stops, and again, you can, I've seen those kits on Facebook Marketplace. Yeah, probably for half price. Yeah, so like, don't spend a bunch of money cause the most important thing is Get reps because you're gonna learn a ton of stuff and no one's probably gonna listen to it anyways.

And to that point, most podcasts. I don't remember the exact statistic, but it's something like 70% of podcasts never make it past episode seven, and then 98% of podcasts never make it past episode 20. So if you get to 20 episodes, which you're gonna need to do to just get a feel for it anyways, then you're in the top 2% already of podcasts. Yeah, it's kind of like, If you're thinking about getting into riding bicycles and you've never really ridden one or ridden it like around the neighborhood or different terrain or whatnot, it's like, you just need to get a bike to just ride and see if you even like riding and see if you even will get on your bike and ride instead of spending all this time just fucking procrastinating, in which we can all like get into it, like it's really fun looking at old stuff and learning. But then you just, I shop for super yachts, but I'm not buying super yachts right now because here's the other thing with podcasting, it like it's endless, so you can start. Down here with like the budget options and do everything you need to do, but there's really no end. You can spend so much money going down the route of the nicest cameras and the nicest microphones. Like this studio, I don't know, probably like a 50,000 setup, but you don't have to spend that much and you don't have to go to a studio that costs that much either. You can Set it up for yourself, very, very simply with maybe 100 to 200 bucks if you wanted to start, but the thing you have to figure out is, what do I want to put in as a budget because knowing that there's no end, you could get sucked into the rabbit hole very quickly, and that's fine. If you have the income and you want to throw money at it, great, get the expensive stuff, but you first have to decide what do you want to do and, and, and yeah, what's the point? And like, are you going to commit to it? Because if not, or if you're unsure you're going to commit, then yeah, start small and just work your way up.

And if you want a podcast and you don't know what to podcast about, Which is common sometimes, you know, you just, you just have a passion, you wanna just be on camera, you wanna practice having conversations, you wanna meet people, you wanna talk on camera cause you wanna make content or whatever. I would just start with Whatever your niche is, so like if you're an accountant, if you're in the fitness industry, if you're a chef, like just focus on that if you want to just do something to get warmed up and started cause at least you have Like a good understanding about that subject, so you have something to riff on. And then I think a good way to start is just keep your episodes like 15 to 20 minutes. Like keep them super short, right? Start with like a general question. You could just ask a bunch of friends and family, friends and family. You could ask AI like, hey, this is like my expertise. This is a little bit of my story. Like, what are 20 podcast episodes. That I could do and then just you could record them, right? And then you could just, if you want to interview people and focus more on that, you could just start with just family, friends, like just hit as many of those as possible because you're gonna learn a bunch of shit every single time like you get someone in front of you you're like, oh, I need to do this. Oh, I, I this, and like you're gonna learn so many things. Main thing is you just need to get reps.

Yeah, and one other thing to consider too is deciding what kind of podcast you want to have and really what's the intention behind it. Because if your intention is Networking Then having a podcast where you're consistently having guests is probably a better move. Whereas if your goal is to create more of a brand and a name for yourself, then solo episodes are probably going to be more effective because it's more focused on you. And that doesn't mean you have to be binary, like we do both, right? So, You know, we do a lot of guests actually, and we've been trying to focus more on doing more solo episodes for that very reason. But just know that like each of those avenues is going to give you a different outcome. So you have to decide like, where do you want to put that attention? Is it more networking and having guests or are you trying to be the face and create a sort of like authority in your marketplace? Yeah, then if you want to go like a little deeper, then you, you can use tools like if you're going to now repurpose it, like, like you need a, well, first if you're going to post it, you need some kind of hosting platform. You could just use Spotify for creators, it's free. You can do video on there. Again, you also don't even need to do video. Yeah, yeah, like you can just start with audio and do video later or never do audio.

I mean, sorry, I never do video. Yeah, I recommend you do do video just because most people watch podcasts as well and that seems to do better. But again, no matter what you do, it's not gonna do well and you could still, yeah, it's not gonna do well right away and you can still put. Like I agree, video is better and one of the biggest platforms for podcasts is YouTube, and that's where a lot of content, like podcast content is being consumed on. And so if you do video, it's pretty easy to get on YouTube, but even if you don't do video, you can just have like a logo as the video and then just throw the audio in there for an hour or whatever it is and then put that up. So either way, get on YouTube. Yeah, YouTube's like YouTube is like one of the only, I know you can get paid on TikTok and Instagram, but I have no fucking idea how that works, and we've been doing this a while, but YouTube, you can like and they lay it out pretty simple of How that works, and I think YouTube actually is the most Watch platform, even like beyond Netflix and anything, right? I mean, that's why, that's why Netflix started adding podcasts cause they're like, oh wow, this is amazing, and their podcasts are fucking awful. They're super overproduced. And that's the thing is like, OK, so you're like, no, I wanna, I wanna go in the studio and whatnot. It's like, Now you just look like the like fucking kid who's got a bunch of money and then you just look like a fool because you just have this super nice studio and editing all this and then you're stumbling over yourself and it's just like yeah, it's like the kid with the like the $100,000 car and he can't even drive it very well like keeps.

Fucking shifting gears wrong and like just, yeah, just awful. So like, you wanna get your, you wanna get your reps in. So, hosting platform, and if you want to make clips, just use Opus clips. Easy. You just literally take the link to your YouTube episode, throw it in there, it clips it up. You can just repost them. You gotta think, podcasting isn't just get on a mic, you gotta record it. You gotta take it. You gotta slightly edit it. You gotta upload it to the different platforms, right? Maybe you need to make some clips. You don't have to, but like, be good, but you should. Clips are king these days. So if, if your goal is to Create some demand in the market or like be seen doing clips. If you're not doing clips, you're doing yourself a massive disservice because clips are the front end of the funnel that are going to bring people to your podcast. And don't worry about like trying to optimize thumbnails, trying to make the clips have super cool B-roll. Don't do all that. Just literally get good at having great conversations and giving.

Cool like making cool even like if it's solo, like making cool episodes, like. It's, it's interesting you have something to say, because all that other stuff is just additional, right? It comes later, right? And as you get going more and more, that'll come along and The tools and all that keep changing. So, I imagine if, you know, you're like 6 months in and you're getting finally good, the way you clip things and thumbnail and have people do all that stuff, or you even do it will be completely different, right? So, better to spend your time on just getting good episodes, meaning like, Talking on camera, getting used to talking on camera, because talking on camera solo is not easy, super difficult. Yeah, so like practicing that, practicing not fumbling your words, right? Practicing recording, practicing like getting in the cadence of just staying consistent, uploading it, like just staying in the consistency of just getting those episodes done, you know, and then there's the whole getting guest.

Like that, that's a continual process all the time. Like, you need to reach out to people, you need to talk to people when you're out and about, you need to go to events, you need to follow up with them, you need to schedule it, right? There's like all of that management piece. And it's one of those interesting things where you, like, it's a, you know, if it becomes a business or a hobby or, you know, whatever the intention is behind it. It can grow to a point where you have a team like we, like we're now, we have a great team. Shout out to all of our guys, AO Cleric, Gion, Ticci, um, And we didn't really anticipate that, but here we are with, with an awesome team, or you can just run it solo and it can be you. And so you don't really like there's no pressure to make it any particular thing. That's the cool thing about it is it's an expression. That's all it is. It's in a sense an art form. Yeah, it's totally art form. Yeah, and you can build it however you want to build it. And also, don't be afraid to embarrass yourself. You're, I mean, fuck, look how we're dressed right now. We look absolutely ridiculous.

I ran out of laundry detergent and haven't washed any clothes, and these are festival pants. An old shirt we made and then I had sauna hats in my car. Yeah, so fuck it. You just sometimes want to look ridiculous, you're gonna look ridiculous. And it's kind of the point is like, start a podcast, don't worry about what people think. Don't worry about if you sound weird, don't worry about, you know, you stumbled over some words or you didn't know what to say or there was a lot of silences, whatever. Just remember your 1st 5 to 10 podcast episodes are going to be dog shit. So just Get them out. Like there's a, there's an old phrase, if you're gonna eat the shit sandwich, don't nibble on it. Just eat it all the way, get it done with. Yeah, exactly. And then how to make money on podcasting, I don't know. I have no idea. Yeah, people ask us a lot if we make money from podcasting, and the answer is, uh, uh, resounding kind of. So yeah, we made 20 bucks last week on YouTube. Well, we make, I mean, we make a little bit more than that on YouTube. Yeah, we made 20 bucks, but there's like brand deals that you can do. But again, that's the stuff that's gonna come way. We've been doing this for 3 years, right? And podcasting now is growing a lot, so you could probably get there faster than we did at this point, but Um, yeah, don't expect to make money. That's actually a good thing to talk about. Don't expect to make money quickly from podcasting. It's not a get rich thing. It might be faster if you're really, really, really niched down into a very particular thing. And there's a lot of money in that market, then sure, you could probably get there faster, um, but then you're also pigeonholed to that forever.

Um, but yeah, you'll make money from different avenues like YouTube, um, from brand deals for if you get a decent following from, you know, like UGC posts and things like that. So, yeah, to answer the question, we do make some money, uh, with some like brand deals, but it's definitely not a massive amount. And the intention for us was never to Like we didn't start this with the intention to make a ton of money. We started this because we wanted to build a cool network, meet cool people, have cool conversations, and do something fun together as friends. And so when it started making at least a little money, we were like, oh shit, that's kind of cool. Let's keep pushing down that aisle and see where it goes. And also, in order to keep doing it, we now do need to make money because it's like, It's not cheap. It's not cheap, and we don't want to go backwards and start recording on our phones. Yeah, right? Yeah, because now the production value that we've become accustomed to and our spores, our listeners have become accustomed to is high. So now we can't, can't backtrack. No, not at all. And we, because it's To me, it's like a creative fun expression, and we want to keep doing more.

Like pushing the limit of what we can do more like podcasts at festivals and vlogs where we're like traveling and filming stuff or on-site episodes like going to interesting places or people and interviewing them there, that takes more time and more money and we can only work our other jobs so much and do this and afford whatever. It's like, like, so, and it's also an interesting problem to figure out, right? And I think that's. A good way to get into business is like with Amazon when we did it. I mean, we fucking tried our best, but at the end of the day, like if it went away. Like it didn't really, it wasn't like it wasn't like we're excited to do Amazon. No, that was just a make money grab. Yeah, like we don't walk away from working on Amazon and be like, wow, even though we spent a bunch of money on inventory, I feel so elated and excited. We're We have a super cool guest on and you meet somebody cool and like have a cool conversation and you're full of energy or you get new ideas or you network and like they introduce you to somebody else cool or whatnot, and you have cool experiences and you grow and you learn. And even if you're losing money on it, like you get all of that with it. Yeah, it's not even losing money, you're investing into it. It's like it's, it's a labor of love. And so again, it's probably not going to make money for a couple of years, so be cool with investing into it.

And just have fun doing it. And if you don't have fun doing it, then fucking don't do it. Yeah, do not do this to make money. The worst business you could get into for making money. If that's your goal, don't get into podcasting. No, that's a bad, that's, that's a really bad idea because I can't tell you how to do that right away. But yeah, if you do, like, I guess if you did want to like scale faster or whatever, it's good to niche because the algorithm likes something that's same all the time, right? So you can see some podcasts that grow really quickly, but to me, the reason we do it this way is, A, my interest is going to always change and I'm gonna get bored. If we only did only psychedelics, it's, it's boring. And then we can only interview those kinds of people and only talk about that, right? It's like, The longevity of that is not very long, but because of that, it's also the algorithms like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, so we've chosen a path that is gonna take way longer to grow and to scale, but Again, the intention was to have fun and not to be pigeonholed into one thing. So we're OK with a slow growth because the point is to do this for 1520 years, however long, and just let it continue to grow organically and shift and change and mold as time goes on.

Yeah, Yeah, hence the name the multiverse. Yeah, that's, that's why we called it the multiverse. Yeah, there's actually an interesting episode with, oh, who's that guy that always does DMT, did the longest DMT, Danny Jones, Danny, Danny Goler, the laser guy. Yeah, yeah. I found an episode, I think I sent it to you. It was like, but it was recorded two months ago, but it looks like a similar episode, but it's because it's, this is, he always records from his house. But he went down this like really Interesting topic about like, Christianity and God and then like beyond it, but there's a couple of times he talks about the multiverse in there, right? I wanna find those clips, but I don't know where I was going with it. And guys, this is a great lesson in having a brain fart. It's OK to brain fart on your podcast. Silence is a powerful tool. And that's why we have editors because they can just take this shit out.

Hey, editing a mariachi band. See, that's the cool thing too. You could do whatever you want. What would you say are the biggest mistakes that, let's say you're a business and you want to start a podcast, because I think that's a, that's a, Good avenue for people cause, OK, let's actually, let me, let's Derail this train. So, we said don't make a podcast if your plan is to make money. Like that's not a good business idea. But the caveat to that I would say is if you have a business already, Then having a podcast can make you money pretty quickly. Yeah, or you start a podcast because you want to create content and brand awareness around your business, and that can make you money, right? So maybe the podcast itself, like you're not getting ad deals and stuff, but the content and the deals you might get with having guests on and the content that you get that you could potentially turn into ads or whatnot.

is super helpful. And we know podcast style content gets 20 to 40%. Higher conversion. Yes, yes, it's true. We just filmed the VSL all about this stuff. So it's fresh on our mind and 2.1 times the click-through rate. Yeah, exactly. That's why we started Two Fun Guys studios. So we came up with this idea, um, which we thought it would be fun, but also it's like, OK, we know podcasting, it's gonna take time. To grow views and followers, and so we're not going to sell out and just start, you know, just doing whatever the algorithm totally wants. Because you could, but we're not gonna do that. So, we gotta make money on to like be able to do this more often and continue to do cooler shit. So, we came up with this thing called TFT Studios, which is a, what would you call?

It's like content production house. Yeah, content production house where say you're a creator or you're a business and you want Uh, like An hour long of you being on like a mock podcast, right? And we'll interview you, figure out like the story you're trying to tell, um, what you're trying to educate people on, um, and really highlight you, your brand, who you are, and we'll also create incredible clips with incredible clip editors, or say you even just have a product and you're like, I just need quality content, then we can actually Either you can have us do uh like a mock podcast, and we only do this for a very few select brands. So like if you, if we do this, it's because we love your product, we like your product, and you're the only product in that category, right? So like if it's a I don't know, it's a wellness, neurotropic drink of some sort, and we really love it, and you wanna work with us, then you will be the only one we work with. We're not gonna be You know, like some creators, and you can think off the top of your head, that will just do that rhyme with men hee field.

That will just constantly just do. Shout outs and content and ads or whatever for different companies, we're not gonna do that. But we will, if it is somebody we're not aligned like that like also just doesn't fit our brand. Like we're not gonna do fucking tampons or yeah, if you're a golf brand, we're not gonna do it like or ice rollers. It's like we're not gonna do ice rollers or whatever, or maybe we will. But I don't know we'll figure out specifically like who is the people that would be best on camera for your brand that people would really deeply resonate with. Yeah, so basically, if you want podcast style content and you have a, you know, a D2C brand or whatever. The way it can work is either we can create a ton of content for you. If it aligns with us, we can use our faces, or if it's not really aligned with our brand and we don't want our faces attached to it, which no, no big deal, it's just maybe not a brand that aligns with us, then we have a cast of people that we can put in the chair. And then still give you a ton of content that you can use and you can clip it into ads, you can clip it into organic stuff, whatever. You can have 3 to 4 months' worth of content just ready to go, and that way you don't have to think about it. And like we mentioned, podcast style content gets way better click-through rates, gets way more watch time, and it is way easier to overcome like a buyer's objections through a podcast than it is with like, you know, UGC stuff or things like that. And if you want to be on the pod, like if you as the creator want more founder footage of yourself, like you talking to the camera, problem is most founders aren't very good on camera. And so one part of TFG Studios is we can coach you like how to be on camera and we can extract all the pieces that are going to make great ads from you through like a mock podcast.

And then you have a ton of content of your face. And so this could be for like coaches, if you want more content about your coaching company, or it could be if you have a like a a consumable brand or whatever. Like if you have a business and you just want content, this could work for almost anyone. Yep, yeah. So that's TFG Studios, which is different from the podcast. So we've We're trying to be very diligent around like the fact that they're connected, but they're, but they're separate. They're, it's a different business altogether. The podcast itself is that stays the podcast. That's just for fun. That's for us to, you know, keep pumping out episodes and having a good time. And then studios is the content production house where we can partner with other companies and create endless content for people. Yeah, and Yeah, I don't know what else to say. There you go. I don't know what else there is to say. Any parting words for people that are starting podcasts or have You know, the inkling of a of a desire to get on the microphone.

Uh, give yourself 7 days, set the date, set the time. Figure it out until up until then and just record your first one, upload it, post it, and don't think about anything else beyond that. Just do it. Don't worry about a logo, you can make a billion in AI just Make a name Set the date and then just fucking record it. Even if you get to that date and you have no idea what you're going to talk about, just literally record yourself for 20 minutes and just, you just did it, right? You're gonna learn so much in that 7 days and that filmed episode that you'll like, you don't need to worry about anything else. It's like just what's just the next thing, that's it, right? Because you're gonna get bogged down. There's too much stuff out there. And an easy way, like, let's say, you know, in Brent's example, a week has passed by, today's your due date. You're supposed to record your episode, but you haven't done it because you're a lazy bastard. But if you need to get your episode out and you don't know what to say, have a friend just interview you. Have them ask you questions. Hey, tell me about your life. Tell me about You know, your passions. Tell me about some times in your life when you've overcome something difficult. Tell me about, you know, what you want to do in the world and what impact you want to make. Literally just ask those, have somebody ask you those questions and boom, you have your first podcast episode and you're gonna feel 10 times better because you've just gotten it all out. You've started, you've got momentum, and then now it's just do another episode and just upload it. You don't have to post it. You can still be set to private or not posted, but go through the process of Taking it off wherever you filmed it, taking the audio, uploading it, just Force yourself to do all of that, and then you'll know like, oh, that's awful. That's not fun. I don't like this at all. Or you're like, I want more. I don't know anything, but I want more, right? That's, that's a good place to begin. And if you ever Like, if you ever have questions or want help,

You know, feel free to reach out to us. We have no problem, you know, helping people that are genuinely interested in wanting to do this. Mhm. Yeah, just shoot us a DM. Yeah. All right. Go have fun starting your podcast podcast. Have fun starting your pirate podcast. We need more pirate podcasts for sure. Yeah, definitely. Two guys. They're rated R. see you everybody.